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the government services that they get. and those are going to be cut back, too. i don't think the fiscal cliff problem hit social security or medicare right away. they kind of sealed that off from se questions ration. but you mentioned unemployment before. there are a variety of other government programs that will be drastically cut back on tuesday morning if we don't get some kind of a deal by monday night. >> you know, ryan, when you look at -- when clarence was talking,ives looking and i think i have it. bills that republicans and congress have blocked this year. a bill that would have increased the minimum wage, a buffet rule bill, the employment, nondis crimination act that would have prohibited hiring people on the basis of sexual orientation. a u.n. treaty to protect the rights of disabled people around the world and the paycheck famous act so that women don't get paid less than men for doing the same job. i mean, there's been a variety of bills that they have seen not go past. they have actually stopped in a variety of ways that would have helped the amer
the government services that they get. and those are going to be cut back, too. i don't think the fiscal cliff problem hit social security or medicare right away. they kind of sealed that off from se questions ration. but you mentioned unemployment before. there are a variety of other government programs that will be drastically cut back on tuesday morning if we don't get some kind of a deal by monday night. >> you know, ryan, when you look at -- when clarence was talking,ives looking and...
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that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate impact on people with unemployment insurance and other things? i mean, what happens if we go over this cliff? >> well, you really have to distinguish between going over the cliff and quickly reversing the damage, meaning in a matter of weeks, which is still
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this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost its luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most available jobs, there are lines out the door of qualified applicants. and that is the most important fact about not just the economy, but about what is happening in washington right now, as we speak. the biggest deal, the biggest problem with a deal that has not been struck in congress is coming up next. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get re
this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost its luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most...
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they're here and they want to really quite frankly dismantle government. i think that's what you have seen. you know, an effort by the far right, the tea party republicans, to obstruct and stop everything that we could move forward to, one, reduce the deficit, two, create jobs, three, protect medicare, social security, medicaid, and, four, to create the american dream for all. you've seen this obstructionist congress do that. so, yes, we need a full debate so the american people can see who is where, who is doing what, who values the 98%, who supports oil subsidies for the oil companies versus who supports medicare and social security for our senior citizens, who supports investments in our job creation and infrastructure versus who supports continuing profits for the 1%. yeah, we need a full debate so the american people will see what is exactly taking place in congress. >> california congresswoman barbara lee, happy new year. thanks for coming on a. >> thank you. >> a deal has been reached to avert going over the so-called milk cliff but the threat of $8
they're here and they want to really quite frankly dismantle government. i think that's what you have seen. you know, an effort by the far right, the tea party republicans, to obstruct and stop everything that we could move forward to, one, reduce the deficit, two, create jobs, three, protect medicare, social security, medicaid, and, four, to create the american dream for all. you've seen this obstructionist congress do that. so, yes, we need a full debate so the american people can see who is...
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the whole notion from the right that big government is bad, we have to get rid of big government, that is a popular no notion that gets out of the right wing ghetto. president obama says we need government to come together, invest in innovation, health care, the public accepts that. other times ronald reagan comes along and says government is the problem and people rally behind that. that's a fight. >> it's a pendulum, too. >> on afghanistan, an issue close to my heart, a war going on for more than 11 years, the american public sick of it. 60% say remove all the troops as soon as possible. 35% say stay in there until afghanistan is stabilized. 11 years and 35% of the people say until it's stabilized. it's not going to get done. >> no it's not. it's remarkable that the country is decidedly less pro war than a few years ago. we have had these wars that do nothing for the country. we are illegitimate in one case to have a war in the first place. we don't want to be sending our young people off to a central asian hot spot anymore to spend a decade there, what? building a nation in afghanis
the whole notion from the right that big government is bad, we have to get rid of big government, that is a popular no notion that gets out of the right wing ghetto. president obama says we need government to come together, invest in innovation, health care, the public accepts that. other times ronald reagan comes along and says government is the problem and people rally behind that. that's a fight. >> it's a pendulum, too. >> on afghanistan, an issue close to my heart, a war going...
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the american government perceives that it's possible we may be able to entice the morsi government, the new government, whatever it happens to be, into continuing a policy of being an assistant to peace in the middle east rather than being obstructionist and we'll do that by giving them $2 billion to $3 billion in assistance. a lot of that is going to take the form of military aid. there are fairly close relationships between the american military and the egyptian military. we are hoping that that will survive this constitution. >> last but not least, over the weekend on subpoenaed, a syrian jet bombing a bakery killing dozens of people after waiting in line just to get bread. the frez and the u.n. has still not been able to remove president bashir al assad after months and months of in-country conflict there. what can the president do. not only from a standpoint of the white house, but from an international coalition to look at getting bashir al assad out? >> i mean, we've been working on it for quite some time. we didn't want to get militarily involved. we've seen what happens when we
the american government perceives that it's possible we may be able to entice the morsi government, the new government, whatever it happens to be, into continuing a policy of being an assistant to peace in the middle east rather than being obstructionist and we'll do that by giving them $2 billion to $3 billion in assistance. a lot of that is going to take the form of military aid. there are fairly close relationships between the american military and the egyptian military. we are hoping that...
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most notable political quotes of the year. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> we're back. 2012 is coming to a close. but, before it does, let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotes. quotations that were uttered this year. everything from the historic to the infamous to, of c
you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most...
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that is up to the government and the choices the government makes for the first weeks or month or two at least. for instance, the irs, the internal revenue service can decide what to do about how they treat the tax increase. the agency could delay increasing the amount it withholds from your paycheck each week assuming congress would reach a deal. that way you wouldn't notice the tax increase before it turned around. if it didn't get reversed, you're going to get quite a bill from the taxman. also if we go over the cliff, and the spending cuts begin to take hold, the various agencies of the federal government can consider putting employees on furlough. meaning they take unpaid days off. that's considered a better alternative than layoffs, if we don't get a deal quickly, the furloughs will have to become layoffs, that will mean real pain. >>> the great question is how quickly that pain will begin. would it hurt the real economy before we get a deal? or would the prospect of pain create such pressure, would congress change course before we feel it. the strategy of the folks who want to
that is up to the government and the choices the government makes for the first weeks or month or two at least. for instance, the irs, the internal revenue service can decide what to do about how they treat the tax increase. the agency could delay increasing the amount it withholds from your paycheck each week assuming congress would reach a deal. that way you wouldn't notice the tax increase before it turned around. if it didn't get reversed, you're going to get quite a bill from the taxman....
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bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may be the silver lining, writing, quote -- now at least we know something important. the current rep majority cannot govern, only a coalition across party lines can get the public's business done. e.j. joins us now, a senior fellow with the brookings institution and an msnbc contributor. e.j., great to see you, as always. john boehner sits to the left of center of his caucus. can he work out a deal without inciting a full-scale revolt? >> well, we don't know that, but i think he'll have to test it. that really tells you something about how conservative the republican caucus has done. john boehner is a good conservative. what w
bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may...
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to try to govern, i'm not driven by some ideological agenda. i'm a pretty practical guy. and i just want to make sure that things work. and one of the nice things about never having another election again, i will never campaign again, is you know, i think you can rest assured that all i care about is making sure that i leave behind an america that is stronger, more prosperous, you know, more stable, more secure than it was when i came into office. and that's going to continue to drive me. and i think that the issue that we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left-wing agenda. that used to be considered a pretty mainstream republican agenda. and it's something that we can accomplish today, if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is an indication of you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone
to try to govern, i'm not driven by some ideological agenda. i'm a pretty practical guy. and i just want to make sure that things work. and one of the nice things about never having another election again, i will never campaign again, is you know, i think you can rest assured that all i care about is making sure that i leave behind an america that is stronger, more prosperous, you know, more stable, more secure than it was when i came into office. and that's going to continue to drive me. and i...
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important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you. john boehner as we heard from kelly o'donnell is going to have to face meeting democrats if we have a deal. then he's going to have to go back to his caucus and say re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> i think it's two separate questions, richard. on the first point he's going to have a difficult time to corral votes. if the president bring his 250 plan to the house floor, you're not going to see many republicans go after it. but at the same time i think boehner is pretty safe when it comes to his speakership. if gentlemen were making noise against the speaker, there would be huge trouble. i think boehner'
important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you....
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we can fight him on the government funding bill. there's a lot of fights to be had and there's a lot more we can get. frankly, they think they're better goshg yaters. they don't get where there's this holdup. the folks on the other side say this is a bad bill. there's not enough spending cuts. it's not what we like to see. it's a concussion to the president because it extends unemployment, it extends the middle class tax cuts part of the stimulus. those folks want their voices heard. the way john boehner leads is he says the house is the will of the american people. with cantor coming out against this, you heard from mr. latourette, it would be very hard for john boehner to move ahead of eric cantor and try to put this bill on the floor without it being amended. >> luke, stand by. mike viqueira is also with us this hour to bring us up to date. one of the points brought up by luke russert when he was speaking with representative latourette was the number that could support the bill as it stands right now, that number that representat
we can fight him on the government funding bill. there's a lot of fights to be had and there's a lot more we can get. frankly, they think they're better goshg yaters. they don't get where there's this holdup. the folks on the other side say this is a bad bill. there's not enough spending cuts. it's not what we like to see. it's a concussion to the president because it extends unemployment, it extends the middle class tax cuts part of the stimulus. those folks want their voices heard. the way...
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most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the
most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john...
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he ignored a lot of what his father actually thought about politics and governing. things like letting people see your tax returns, 12 years of them which his father did. so mitt romney after having lived his life to do this to run his campaign is now at home tonight with his tax returns. he is the biggest -- he's the biggest loser in america. >> but he won that battle. >> biggest loser. anybody who was taking their cues from the romney campaign polls in the last couple of weeks and was out there talking about 300 electoral votes. that was really fun. >> it was a close tie. i thought about paul ryan. being associated with the biggest loser is almost as bad as being the biggest loser. >> losing on the vice presidential slot, there's nowhere to go. >> it was a tie between him and rupert murdoch. this year his entire news empire was exposed for the fraud it is. they were literally humiliated. their narrative of the campaign proved to be completely false. now their credibility is in tatters. and you had the phone hacking scandal. he's just a mess right now. so i'm givin
he ignored a lot of what his father actually thought about politics and governing. things like letting people see your tax returns, 12 years of them which his father did. so mitt romney after having lived his life to do this to run his campaign is now at home tonight with his tax returns. he is the biggest -- he's the biggest loser in america. >> but he won that battle. >> biggest loser. anybody who was taking their cues from the romney campaign polls in the last couple of weeks and...
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who believe that the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. and so my job is not to worry about these people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility. >> a very valuable comment. >> i am going to go with bill clinton. >> one speech? >> it was 20 years in the making, the story of the speech, for the first 15 years, republicans treated bill clinton that he was the worst thing that ever happened to american politics. the villain in chief, and after he left the white house, there was the moment in 2008, when republicans decided wait a minute, no, bill clinton is this by-gone symbol of an era, in good government, moderation, and they sang his praises for four years. they set him up as the good democrat against obama's bad democrat. and then what happens? the good democrat steals the show, vouches for the bad democrat, and disarmed what a lot of republicans were saying about barack obama. >> you have made a reasonable argument. chris hay
who believe that the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. and so my job is not to worry about these people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility. >> a very valuable comment. >> i am going to go with bill clinton. >> one speech? >> it was 20 years in the making, the story of the speech, for the first 15 years, republicans treated bill clinton...
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the most notable political quotes of the year. which quote tops it? that's ahead. and this is "hardball" the place for politics. >>> we're wac. 2012 is coming to a close. let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotations. everything from the historic, to the infamous to the absurd. for the 7th year, fred shapiro has released his list of the top ten quotes. which ones will stand the test of time? you be the judge. joining me right now is a columnist for bloomburg review. gentlemen, get in your starting gates. here's the number one, actually, the number seven quote of the year, it happened in march while the republi
you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the...
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government and economy and they're going to be sitting with their guns ready to fend off any visitors. well, you know, that concerns me a little bit because they're not religious nuts. they are actually rational people with a bad idea. >> michael, that's actually a great point. the difference between the secular and religious doomsday folks. is there anything you could say to the secular types who are sitting with their piles of gold and everything waiting for the country to erode. is there anything logically, rationally to persuade people maybe this isn't the best approach? >> well, i do. these people write me and i write them back. i say look, the country's almost 250 years old. and nothing's happened like that. even remotely like that. that happens in some third world countries where they have revolutions, but we've had all these presidential elections and not once has the incumbent president had to be forced out by gun point. where that does happen in other countries. the chances of that happening here is very low. our economy has gone through major cataclysms and still people don
government and economy and they're going to be sitting with their guns ready to fend off any visitors. well, you know, that concerns me a little bit because they're not religious nuts. they are actually rational people with a bad idea. >> michael, that's actually a great point. the difference between the secular and religious doomsday folks. is there anything you could say to the secular types who are sitting with their piles of gold and everything waiting for the country to erode. is...
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to try to govern, i'm not driven by some ideological agenda. i'm a pretty practical guy. and i just want to make sure that things work. and one of the nice things about never having another election again, i will never campaign again, is you know, i think you can rest assured that all i care about is making sure that i leave behind an america that is stronger, more prosperous, you know, more stable, more secure than it was when i came into office. and that's going to continue to drive me. and i think that the issue that we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left-wing agenda. that used to be considered a pretty mainstream republican agenda. and it's something that we can accomplish today. if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is an indication of you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone
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if the government is going to be corrupt and not take care of their people, they will pay the price for that. >>> are what do you tell a parent who loses a sudden or daughter in afghanistan? why? >> we are trying to create a stable situation and develop a government representative of the people and live in peace with its neighbors. it's not always that simple or easy. even with the most noble circumstance that is a gi lost his life, it's hard to talk to a parent. the most difficult now is when you have a soldier that is killed by an afghan soldier. that is tough. i would have a tough time explaining that. a parent might say enough. the country that is the majority feels let's figure this out and we have other challenges. >> thank you so much. general powell. coming up, julia louis dreyfus, but first julianne moore on recreating the 2000 election in the film adaptation a game change. that's straight ahead when we return. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay
if the government is going to be corrupt and not take care of their people, they will pay the price for that. >>> are what do you tell a parent who loses a sudden or daughter in afghanistan? why? >> we are trying to create a stable situation and develop a government representative of the people and live in peace with its neighbors. it's not always that simple or easy. even with the most noble circumstance that is a gi lost his life, it's hard to talk to a parent. the most...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ mal
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here on really how far we want to bend or whether or not we want to break people that are the most vulnerable. and i think this is going to be a test. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you so much, and happy new year to you. >> happy new year. >>> we will be back in a moment with more on the apparent deal to avert the worst of the fiscal cliff. please stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's
the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here...
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but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if we took the already great sentra apart and com
but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from...
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because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of the war. as kelly just said, boehner put forward the plan b only to withdraw it when he could not rustle up enough republican votes, and since then he is more of an observer than a player in the crisis. joining me is rob acosta, and "republic's" john stein. as we just heard from kelly o'donnell, they will be faced with needing democrats to get this deal through if we do indeed have a deal, and then he has to go back to the caucus and say, re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> well, these are two separate questions, richard. on the first point, boehner has a tough time corralling some of the republic
because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of...
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what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drum
what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to...
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first off, i want to ask you, you say in your series here that the federal government has emerged as one of the most potent factor driving income inequality. what do you mean? >> this has to do with the first story in the series, which is about tax equality. we did find the bush era tax cuts and sort of increased incomes at the top, that was a factor in reducing inequality, so it can be something that the government can do to mitigate. we tried to look at data in our series. we didn't want to be partisan about this. one factor that can help is tax policy, but the broader issue is jobs. people at the top are earning much more than they ever have. >> talks to that point about tax policy, the numbers out there, is it 250,000? is it 400,000? what is the threshold that would help to flatten this issue of income inquaet, be more progressive, perhaps? >> i think it would help to, at the top, to increase the rates. i think there's a need for training. we looked at two states along with washed. we looked at massachusetts and indiana. it's a skills economy. the manufacturing jobs where a high
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, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under medicare by making sure that 30% cut to the providers don't go through. th
, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to...
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people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you don't have to be as clear as i but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, once again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed? >> i think republicans will get blamed, but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically say -- >> they're voting for a tax cut. >> do they presume t
people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you...
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>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by john kerry who president obama has nominated for secretary of state. markey is a friend and respected guest on "hardball" and has been in the house since 1976. he's the dean of the massachusetts delegation, and he has the best values of anybody i know in politics. if he gets the democratic nomination for the senate, he could wind up running against scott brown who won the seat in 2010, then lost it last month. the special election is likely to take place this june. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." when john boehner failed to bring his so-called plan "b" to a vote last week because he didn't have
>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by...
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do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. so, we could get a big market reaction, a drop in the stock market, and that might scare people. >> "the rachel maddow show" week nights at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> home prices on the rise, syria's head of preventing defections decides to defect. your headlines are straight ahead. plus, connecting the dots on sonia sotomayor, health care and a fine. you're watching "first look." >>> some stories making news this morning. toyota says it's reached a more than $1 billion settlement in a case involving unintended acceleration problems in its vehicles. it's one of the largest settlements involving automobile defects in u.s. history. >>> supreme court justice sonia sotomayor has denied two retailers' requests to block part of the federal health care law that requires insurance coverage for contraceptives as of january 1st. the companies, which say the law violates their religious beliefs, face a $1.3 million daily fine if they don't comply. >>> 94-year-o
do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. so, we could get a big market reaction, a drop in the stock market, and that might scare people. >> "the rachel maddow show" week nights at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> home prices on the rise, syria's head of preventing defections decides to defect. your headlines are straight ahead. plus, connecting the dots on sonia sotomayor, health care and a...
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it's eight or ten days of government spending. and what we've really got to do, you just can't budget. if the president gets all the revenue he asks for, he simply can't deal with the problem without putting forward real spending cuts and real entitlement reform. >> i don't think the president's going to get all the revenue he's asked for, but i'll tell you this, i know this is sort of how washington works, you know how washington works, things get put off, except we've been downgraded. we've just been through a terrible recession and we're on the cliff of another one if we push this. this was supposed to happen now for a reason. >> well, it should happen. look, the house acted on this in may and they've had legislation sitting in the senate. all the senate had to do -- it didn't have to pass what the house passed, it just needed to pick the bill up, do what senator coburn suggested earlier, have an open process, amend it and send it back. again, we don't control the senate. that's harry reid. but if you wait until the last minute
it's eight or ten days of government spending. and what we've really got to do, you just can't budget. if the president gets all the revenue he asks for, he simply can't deal with the problem without putting forward real spending cuts and real entitlement reform. >> i don't think the president's going to get all the revenue he's asked for, but i'll tell you this, i know this is sort of how washington works, you know how washington works, things get put off, except we've been downgraded....
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shifting the debt burden from the federal government and states and federal government is a better position to carry debt. states have these constitutional balance budget amendments and bail out the states, isn't it? >> this is exactly the problem we have is that the government finds it easy to borrow and runaway deficit. let me explain the big thing. a project in the uk where we have good data, 100 million pounds, uk project, 30% more cost overruns than 5 million project. small is beautiful and more efficient than you think. so having the government, centralized one bureaucrat make a mistake, okay, massive consequences. it looks okay until they make a mistake. it's a lot bigger. plus, another thing. there's no skin in the game on a part of bureaucrats. bureaucrat makes a decision. that's the central thing. federalize the system and i was asked how to make the financial industry better. force people to have skin in the game. nrds, have people harmed by the mistakes. >> sure. >> you are not harmed as a bureaucrat, not harmed by the bureaucrat. a mayor, you're shamed. that's maybe enough, jus
shifting the debt burden from the federal government and states and federal government is a better position to carry debt. states have these constitutional balance budget amendments and bail out the states, isn't it? >> this is exactly the problem we have is that the government finds it easy to borrow and runaway deficit. let me explain the big thing. a project in the uk where we have good data, 100 million pounds, uk project, 30% more cost overruns than 5 million project. small is...
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we cut government subsidies that shouldn't be given. we set priorities, organize billions of dollars, sent it to the house. the house committee acted. for the life of me, i cannot understand why the speaker of the house turned his back on rural america, on consumers. people get their jobs because of agricultu agriculture. here we are running up to this cliff. if something is not done, milk prices are going to double or triple. so, we have to at least pass what's called an extension of current law. the four agricultural leaders, republican, democrat, house, senate have come together. all four of us agreed on language to do that. now they need to get it passed. >> are they going to get it passed? >> they have to. i believe we will. >> the agriculture secretary called it historic to come up to this point of the farm bill. thank you so much for your time. >> my pleasure. >> hopefully everybody's blood pressure goes down. a lot of people are upset. we appreciate your time. talk to you soon. >> thank you. >> we are 22 minutes past the hour he
we cut government subsidies that shouldn't be given. we set priorities, organize billions of dollars, sent it to the house. the house committee acted. for the life of me, i cannot understand why the speaker of the house turned his back on rural america, on consumers. people get their jobs because of agricultu agriculture. here we are running up to this cliff. if something is not done, milk prices are going to double or triple. so, we have to at least pass what's called an extension of current...
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in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's business. >> as you said a few minutes ago, we have been assured we would be given at leas
in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones...
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they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've had an impact, but it's not a governing agenda in terms of accomplishments that would get to their goal of deficit reduction and long-term economic growth. >> on that point, why not? >> because they're standing in the way of allowing that to happen. they're saying you can't come to an accommodation on the issue of taxes. if you can't do that, there's no way you can -- >> well, i would disagree with you and disagree with ben a little bit. what they've proved in the fist year is if you do hold certain things hostage, you can get results. and we already have $1 trillion worth of debt reduction because of
they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've...
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people keep buying government bonds despite all our debt and the job market is improving. so i don't really see this continuing warfare in washington derailing that instantly. >> now, this for the moment kicks sequestration, federal spending cuts, down the road at the same time another fight over the debt ceiling looms. could the two issues scuttle any progress made on avoiding the cliff? >> i think the debt ceiling is really the move powerful and problematic. we saw this in august of 2011 when people start to raise questions about is the government actually going to pay its debt, can the government issue bonds, can it fund its operations, that's a pretty serious situation. if it gets to that point, we technically hit this debt ceiling, there are things the treasury secretary can do over the next couple months, avoiding putting payments into pension plans, things like that so we don't go over it. but at some point that has to be resolved and resolved in such a way that, you know, we are able to borrow, that people, bond investors will know they can buy these bonds and that
people keep buying government bonds despite all our debt and the job market is improving. so i don't really see this continuing warfare in washington derailing that instantly. >> now, this for the moment kicks sequestration, federal spending cuts, down the road at the same time another fight over the debt ceiling looms. could the two issues scuttle any progress made on avoiding the cliff? >> i think the debt ceiling is really the move powerful and problematic. we saw this in august...
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and they don't, the government would shut down. there are major fiscal fights that need to be resolved beyond the immediate fiscal cliff. we are not even talking about the major policies that you are talking about. immigration reform and gun control legislation, those are things that can fall by the wayside if we are consumed by the fiscal talks which seems likely. >> it seems they crawl from one crisis to the next. thank you, sir, we will see you later in the hour. >> thank you. >> president obama will be talking about the fiscal cliff with david gregory on "meet the press" tomorrow, it's an exclusive interview, check your local listings for the air times. if you miss it, we will rerun it on msnbc tomorrow afternoon at 3:00. >>> want to update you on developing news in houston. george h. w. bush has been released from icugabe is staineding by. you told us two hours ago that the president was singing to doctors and unurses, he sounds like he is doing better than a week ago? >> yes, we got a update saying that former president bush
and they don't, the government would shut down. there are major fiscal fights that need to be resolved beyond the immediate fiscal cliff. we are not even talking about the major policies that you are talking about. immigration reform and gun control legislation, those are things that can fall by the wayside if we are consumed by the fiscal talks which seems likely. >> it seems they crawl from one crisis to the next. thank you, sir, we will see you later in the hour. >> thank you....
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graph. north dakota, senator kent conroy he sent a graph this year that was useful on capitol hill this year. it showed the last tax budget we had. five points higher than it was now. tax revenues right now. about the lowest we have seen. you need for laxes to balance the budget. you see the growi
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some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains last thursday and private arrangements were made over the weekend. you'll know lanza killed 20 first graders and 6 adults at sandy hook elementary school before committing suicide. >>> also, at least nine people killed and more than two dozen injured after a bus plumed down a ramp. it's known to be a dangerous area. >>> a new health complications of venezuelan president chavez. he is in cuba for cancer surgery three weeks ago. officials say chavez's condition is, quote, delicate and he might not be able to return to venezuela in time for his inauguration in january. >>> coming up, are you worried about what will happen if
some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains...
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but generally if you look at how i've tried to govern and how i'll continue to try to govern, i'm not driven by some ideological agenda. i'm a pretty practical guy. and i just want to make sure that things work. and one of the nice things about never having another election again, i will never campaign again, is that i think you can rest assured is that all i care about is making sure that i leave behind an america that is stronger, more prosperous, you know, more stable, more secure, than it was when i came into office. and that's going to continue to drive me. and i think that the issue that we're dealing with right now on the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. you know, i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left wing agenda. that used to be considered a pretty mainstream republican agenda. and it's something that we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is an indication of, you know, how far certain fac
but generally if you look at how i've tried to govern and how i'll continue to try to govern, i'm not driven by some ideological agenda. i'm a pretty practical guy. and i just want to make sure that things work. and one of the nice things about never having another election again, i will never campaign again, is that i think you can rest assured is that all i care about is making sure that i leave behind an america that is stronger, more prosperous, you know, more stable, more secure, than it...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the english language graphs coming up. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graphs. nor
the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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so, that makes the government like the rest of us. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator kay bailey hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential t
so, that makes the government like the rest of us. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while...
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the delayed sequester combined with government funding completely runs out. well could have a budget government shutdown showdown in march, and the debt ceiling all expiring basically in the same three to four-week period. it's going to make what has happened in the last 48 seem small and petty. >> so given what you just said, this deal looming tonight, perhaps even voting in the senate tonight, who wins? who loses? who is somewhere in between? >> look, i don't think anybody is winning here. i think that the white house and senate republicans feel as if they've dodged a political bullet, that it's not a complete victory, although the white house certainly feels as if they have republicans helping them raise tax. if you had told them you were going to get that a year ago, two years ago, heck, 20 years ago, they would have said what are you smoking? the fact of the matter is the white house feels like they're winning. simply they've got republicans helping them raise taxes on the wealthiest say 1.4% when all is said and done. but senate republicans feel like th
the delayed sequester combined with government funding completely runs out. well could have a budget government shutdown showdown in march, and the debt ceiling all expiring basically in the same three to four-week period. it's going to make what has happened in the last 48 seem small and petty. >> so given what you just said, this deal looming tonight, perhaps even voting in the senate tonight, who wins? who loses? who is somewhere in between? >> look, i don't think anybody is...
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and the budget office will give it a score what it will cost the government to do this. at this very late hour, many people at work here at the capitol hill and going over that now. the vice president was able during his meeting with democrats to walk through the process, at how he and minority leader mitch mcconnell were able to reach this agreement and what benefit he sees for this. this is significant for the president's second term for achievement that will begin -- will mark the second term and for democrats to go along in support of the president, one of the political arguments that joe biden can make. in support of the president. what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think
and the budget office will give it a score what it will cost the government to do this. at this very late hour, many people at work here at the capitol hill and going over that now. the vice president was able during his meeting with democrats to walk through the process, at how he and minority leader mitch mcconnell were able to reach this agreement and what benefit he sees for this. this is significant for the president's second term for achievement that will begin -- will mark the second...
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they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts that president obama carried in 2012. given that, and we were talking with kelly about the fact that this has to come through the house at some point, that republicans still control. is there any reason for, politically speaking -- >> absolutely, right. >> -- not good of the country speaking, but politically speaking, is there any reason for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very
they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts...